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by John_Deutzman from New York City

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1) If you truly deserve a parking ticket pay it!  I don't like people who try to weasel out of their responsibilities.

If you can swear under oath that the ticket you got was unjust, proceed with the following steps:

A )Fight the ticket on line, via mail or you can fight it in person.  The City's Department of Finance actually has a brochure that helps you fight a ticket it can be found at:

NEW YORK PARKING GUIDE 

 You can also pick up a brochure in person at any help center where you go to fight tickets.

 If you fight by mail,  send a certified letter to avoid the "lost in the mail" horror show. Make copies of everything for your records. Printout copies of all "on line" ticket cases.  If you go in person, your hearing is supposed to be recorded by the city, this might come in handy if you have to appeal.

 B) Present a simple and clear argument why the ticket was wrong.

 C) Study the Young vs. City of New York court decision and consider using it in your case. The decision basically says that as long as your argument is not "patently incredible"  which means not "obviously a lie" or not "obviously unbelievable" that it's up to the city  not you but up to the city to prove their case.  The Story we did on the Young case complete with various helpful links can be found

BY CLICKING HERE

D) If you are unsuccessful  using the method above,  we'd like to hear from you.  e mail me directly at:

 john.deutzman@foxtv.com

 Good Luck!

 John

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cityslicker2801 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 9:04 AM

It's been my finding that there are repeat offenders. Some people I know get tickets all the time for the oh so obvious things.

No standing at bus stops
Double parking
Meter ran out

I don't understand why it is such a big deal. There are parking laws here in nyc and most of america for good reasons. Streets need to be cleaned, people need to be able to get in and out of buses safely, a double parked car causes a obstacle for everyone on the road, and parking meter areas are there for everyone to use, not your personal parking spot. It isnt all that hard to do, read the signs, ask if you arent sure about a sign.

Repeat offenders fill the city's piggy bank over and over again, and never learn.

wnywluke read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 1:31 PM

I think the issue that John has uncovered multiple times is that there are a lot of people who are getting tickets without breaking the law. John might know better but I remember some outragous number like 10% of the tickets being wrong. He's uncovered drivers who have never been to New York City getting tickets. The problem has been that the cards have been so stacked against people to fight tickets that they just pay the fine.

John_Deutzman read my blog
Oct 2, 2007 | 4:40 PM

Hi Guys,

The last time I checked there were about 9 parking tickets issued in NYC only 2 million people chose to fight them. Of the 2 million fought half..1 million, yes 50 percent were dismissed.
That is a horrendous record for people who write tickets. Since 7 million people decided to pay the tickets without a fight, it's hard to know for exactly how many of the 9 million total tickets were bad but for sure at least 1 nillion were tossed out.
That's one reason why the city shouldn't give tremendous weight to the ticket itself in a hearing. The is already overwhelming evidence that ticket writers make a whopping percent of mistakes...in some cases it's fraud.

John

jmax123 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 7:43 PM

Years ago, my car was stolen, and I got a ticket for illegally parking. I showed the NYC police the NJ police report proving my car had been stolen and abandoned there, and they made me pay the ticket anyway! I had to pay the impound fees to get the car back too!

Jane

John_Deutzman read my blog
Oct 2, 2007 | 8:13 PM

Jane,

I've heard that story dozens of times. The judges presume you are lying and got your car back and then illegally parked.
That's how absurd their thinking can be. Although there are some decent judges too.

John

jmax123 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 9:38 PM

I just wanted my car back! It was a classic 1970 Mustang convertible. If you weigh the cost of the fines vs. the aggravation they will put you through if you fight them, (even though you have proof that they are dead wrong), you just pay the ticket. It's money well spent if you look at it that way.

Impound people are really difficult to deal with! My friend went to the impound after she smacked up her Mercedes, to get her personal items out of her car, and they yelled profanities at her saying that she almost killed the other guy in the accident! They wouldn't let her go to her car without a police escort, accusing her of leaving the scene of the accident, which was untrue. So she called the police to allow her to access her car. It wasn't even her fault, but the impound people thought they could treat her badly, because they assumed it was her fault! It's a business where they think they own you because you are in a position where you have no other choice but to deal with them to get your car or contents back.

cityslicker2801 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 9:39 PM

Thats soooo infair they made you pay that ticket Jane !

One time I got a ticket for back in only, I needed to pay it but it wasnt clear as to how much to pay, not knowing what to do I went to the place where you dispute them, and when they said oh you can pay only.. I stopped the judge short and said .. noooo I just need to know how much it is to pay it.. I know NOW what I did was wrong. Lucky for me it was 40 bucks.

jmax123 read my blog view my photos
Oct 2, 2007 | 9:52 PM

I guess the judge wasn't expecting an honest person like you Michelle! It must have been interesting throwing him a curve-ball and forcing him to remember that not everyone is dishonest.

cityslicker2801 read my blog view my photos
Oct 3, 2007 | 8:35 AM

I'll say,, but you know I got no comment about being honest from that judge that day, only when I walked out did I notice it...ehh.. thats ok, I don't do stuff for reconition anyhow. I just hoped that made the judge think twice before being "judgemental" about the next person before them.

DrDNP18 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2007 | 1:23 PM

What you're talking about JD, is "burden of proof"...& the City, or any petitioner/complainant, holds that burden, in any case. The burden can change, depending on the forum of the court, but it should always be there, & enforced by the judge, as a a matter of law.

John_Deutzman read my blog
Oct 4, 2007 | 2:20 PM

dr.

true..however this is not a criminal case so there is no burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt."
it is a civil case based on the "scales of justice" it has been the city's position that the ticket itself, signed by an officer under the penalty of perjury, tilts the scale all to the city's side and it's up to you to overcome that weight with susbtantial evidence to prove that the ticket was wrong.
under the young decision and previous case law it is quite clear that the only thing you need to do to tilt the scale in your direction is to have an argument that cannot be considered "patently incredible" or "obviously a lie" or "obviously unbelieveable."
so, once you present an argument that the judge cannot rule is "patently incedible" the burden shifts to the city.
howver, the city does not use this standard and i know that judges are ignoring it in fear of their jobs even after our story aired.

john

DrDNP18 read my blog view my photos
Oct 4, 2007 | 3:32 PM

Exactly. Didn't see your piece, but it sounds enlightening for the public.
The shifting burden needs to be enforced, as a matter of law, by the judge(and a burden of proof exists in every case, whether criminal, or civil). It's sad to see that the bench experiences a conflcit of interest between the city's income through parking tickets, & the enforcement of laws, as written(which they took an oath to uphold, when sworn as judges)!!

Sanctus read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2007 | 8:28 AM

Well, I've said this before and I have not seen a change yet. The way that parking enforcement is conducted in New York City is tantamount to legal extortion. Certainly, there is a need to crack down on people blatantly breaking the law and enforcement is needed to prevent total chaos. The problem is in the choices of when and where parking enforcement is engaged. It is so bad in my neighborhood that I have received tickets numerous times on days when alternate street parking is suspended. I have actually spoken directly to a ticketing officer (politely) and told them that alternate street parking was suspended. I was rewarded with several rude comments and an illegal ticket. Of course, I was able to fight the ticket, but I should have to. It is inexcusable that police officers are misinformed about parking rules when they are tasked to enforce them. The lack of courtesy, professionalism and respect in the Bronx is unacceptable and should be an embarrassment to the NYPD.

Daniel

Sanctus read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2007 | 8:29 AM

Typo above should read "I shouldn't have to"

Daniel

John_Deutzman read my blog
Oct 8, 2007 | 10:39 AM

Sanctus,

My take on this is that the NYPD inherited "traffic agents" or "brownies" who used to be part of the d.o.t. No one in the NYPD will admit this but the "traffic agents" have caused nothing but grief and have indirectly tarnished the NYPD's image.
There are many good traffic agents out there who are passionate about their jobs but there are just too many stories of fraud, laziness and incomptence amoung traffic agents to give the system any credibilty.
John

DougE read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2007 | 1:35 PM

John:

Thanks for the insight on NYC parking tickets. I remember back in the day getting one and I was thinking, for what? I mean, I paid it as I was parking in Queens, but I didnt deserve it! I did so as not to take off from work and drive to and from the courthouse, it would have been more time and monies.
Also, I was from LI, Connetquot HS and Ronkonkoma. When I got into my late 20's, I lived on Smithtown/Hauppauge border and worked on Rt 111. All my friends are in their mid-late 40s and went to HS at Smithtown east and West. One close friend from Smithtown West is living in Tampa Bay FL area and is suffering from ALS and is about to go on hospice. His story and plight was documented in a newspaper item in the Tampa Bay news and on Channel 10 in Tampa Bay. This is why we need Stem Cell research in this country. He had to go to Bejing, China for a 30 day procedure that has not produced any long term beneficial prognosis. I bet if Pres Bush's wife or children had ALS, there would be stem cell research put into effect asap....what do you think?

Sanctus read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2007 | 3:15 PM

John,

I agree that is part of the problem. In my neighborhood, however, 95% of the tickets are written by police officers who were never traffic agents or brownies. I live very close to a police precinct and the major impound lot in the Bronx at the site of the old Lincoln Hospital. They are merciless in our area, especially in the neighborhood streets where everyone owns their own house, goes to work every day and makes a decent living. I really don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I am convinced that parking enforcement is enforced unfairly in specific neighborhoods for a variety of reasons including convenience, laziness and the ability of the victims to quickly pay tickets or pay to get their cars back. I know I can't prove it and I'm always willing to admit that I could be wrong, but I don't think so in this case. It's a win, win for the city. Frankly, I would prefer that they just knock on my door and demand cash every few weeks. That would, at least, be more honest and involve much less hassle.

Daniel

Sanctus read my blog view my photos
Oct 8, 2007 | 3:47 PM

I want to add here that over 50% of the tickets I have received in my neighborhood were completely wrong and should never have been written. I easily fought those tickets and won every time. Again, I should not have to spend that much time fighting tickets that should have never been written. The rest of the tickets were legit, but only by minutes. If alternate street parking starts at 8:30, the police and/or agents are ticketing cars by 8:30 and 30 seconds. If you wait 2 more minutes to get your already ticketed car, it will be gone, towed to the conveniently close impound yard. It's a game that the NYPD plays every day in my neighborhood. You routinely see Police Tow trucks racing down the streets at above the posted limits to tow cars that have been parked incorrectly for less than five minutes. It feels like we are constantly under attack by the city. None of these cars present a hazard and none of these cars impede anybody else. The city just tows them for the money. That's why I call it extortion. This is our reward for being good citizens. Our street is always clean, but I'll be very surprised if they scale back the parking to two days like they have in certain Brooklyn Neighborhoods.

Daniel

cityslicker2801 read my blog view my photos
Oct 14, 2007 | 1:38 PM

Hey Doug, I dont get what stem cell research has to do with parking tickets in NYC?

DrDNP18 read my blog view my photos
Oct 15, 2007 | 11:19 AM

LOL @ Michelle!!!!!!
Talk about train of thought & segways!!!!
LOL

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John_Deutzman

John Deutzman, a New York native, has been working as a reporter at Fox 5 News since September of 2001. John has won 12 career Emmys and has received 28 Emmy nominations. He's known for his aggressive and at times humorous style when catching bad guys and exposing scams for the Fox 5 Investigative Unit. John's stories have resulted in arrests, businesses being shut down and dozens victims getting their money back from scam artists. Before moving back to New York, John spent 11 years in Miami, first as a sports reporter but when hurricane Andrew struck, John was thrown into news reporting and evenutally made the full time switch to news. John also had stints in Binghamton,New York and Springfield,Massachusetts
. A native of Smithtown,Long Island, John is an 11th-generation Long Islander. He describes himself as a 50/50 mix of his two grandfathers. One grandfather was a journalist who owned the town paper, the "Smithtown Messenger" and the other was one of the first cops in town who had a reputation for being tough and crazy but fair.

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