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I'm sure most of you have gotten lost even though you spent hundreds of dollars on a GPS or used something like Mapquest to make sure you didn't get lost. I find all of these new systems fascinating and very useful but there are still some streets and addresses which are impossible to find. Of course this becomes a matter of life and death if the cops or fire department can't find your house. Police and fire departments rely on various systems to get them to destinations fast. The most important information is getting the right cross streets near your house.

In our story, the woman had burglar alarms accidentally go off and cops couldn't find her house. In her case those are automated calls from her burglar alarm system to her burglar alarm company to the New York City 911 system. Most 911 calls are made by real people and hopefully they would be able to clear up any address confusion. For example tell the operator "People always get lost coming to my house. We are at the intersection of Smith and Jones streets and here's how you get here..."

However it's difficult for someone who's having a heart attack or who's just been shot to give clear directions and that's why most systems automatically can tell where you are and how to get there. In fact, in many cases they can now pinpoint you if you are calling on a cell phone.

Doing this story I learned the following about mapping companies:

1) No matter what service you are using, the various companies welcome any suggestions you have about confusion or wrong addresses. They want people to call them with any mistakes. They will go out and check the information and make the changes.

2) If a mapping company makes changes, they generally make updates four times a year. If you have a GPS or any other system you are using, you need to download new information as frequently as possible to make sure you are up to date.

3) It seems most mapping companies rely on data provided by Navteq or Tele Atlas. Ultimately these two companies are the ones who need to be notified if there is a problem. Here are the links to their sites:

>>NAVTEQ.COM

>>TELEATLAS.COM

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ceci712
Jun 18, 2008 | 10:34 PM

Can you advise how to correct discrepancies on GPS mapping, or mapping in general, I have a similar problem when following directions on a GPS it takes me to a location about 1/2 mile from my actual address surrounded by nothing but trees. Thank you, Marisol

John_Deutzman read my blog
Jun 18, 2008 | 11:27 PM

Marisol,

The best advice I have based on what I learned is to run the adress in question in both navteq.com and teleatlas.com and see if their maps bring you to the wrong spot. If so, you need to report the problem to them because the supply the mapping information for most of the services around the world.
Once they get you request, they will go out and check the information in the field. If you are correct, they will change the info that goes out to everyone including GPS...however the information is only updated a few times a year and everyone has to keep updating their gps to make sure they have the current infomation.
If your home is a confusing address then I suggest you call the cops and fire department to make sure their system can find you.

Tom54 read my blog
Jun 18, 2008 | 11:28 PM

John,

In the precincts I have worked we had similar problems with finding addresses due to the renaming of streets. There are streets in all the boroughs that have been renamed or have 2 names to honor someone, the problem comes in when someone who may not know the area gives an address and reads the wrong sign. If there are 2 signs on one pole for the same street the top one is the one the street is most known for. Today I looked for some of the streets I know of and could not find a location of any just that one existed in the Bronx but not where. The one I looked for was Bertha Keller Corner which if memory serves me correctly is 195 street and the Grand Concourse. Living in Queens now I noticed a few streets around here have 2 names honoring 9/11 victims. In short street names and addresses can at times be very confusing even to those who know the area.

Tom_Retired_PD

John_Deutzman read my blog
Jun 18, 2008 | 11:42 PM

Tom,

Thanks for your input. Just wondering if the days when cops had beats were better and more effective than this hi tech age where everybody sits in a car all day.

John

Tom54 read my blog
Jun 19, 2008 | 12:04 AM

Years ago a precinct was so well covered every beat joined up with the next beat. Today that's not in the budget it would cost to much. They brought back the beat cop with community policing but it's just not the same thing.

jmax123 read my blog view my photos
Jun 19, 2008 | 11:27 PM

I vaguely remember Officer Joe Bolton walking the beat; how cool was he?

But, in areas like Newark they would need a ninja-cop to walk that beat.

Jane

John_Deutzman read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 2:04 AM

Jane,

Officer Joe just walked around his studio introducing the three stooges. That's the kind of gig I would love,

Tom54 read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 8:55 AM

My Mom took me to Macys to see him in person when I was a little kid. I remember he used to read Dick Tracy on his show. The Macys this was to promote a new toy the 2 way wrist radio.
LOL

Tom_Retired_PD

jmax123 read my blog view my photos
Jun 20, 2008 | 5:15 PM

Those were definitely the fun days! Not much corruption back then......or that we knew of anyway.

John_Deutzman read my blog
Jun 20, 2008 | 5:27 PM

I always wondered if Officer Joe, Captain Jack McCarthy and Capt. Kangaroo drank at the same bar.

Of course I'm just speculating on the drinking part.

Tom54 read my blog
Jun 21, 2008 | 8:57 AM

That was a pre Nap commission era so corruption was happening on a much larger scale than today but to my knowledge was more with payoffs with the bad guys it didn't effect the general public to much except you could play a number a lot easier LOL.
Hmmmmm bars, well they didn't hang out where I did. My places were McSherrys corner of 138 and Alexander Ave and French Charlies corner of Webster Ave and East Mosholu Pkwy, both however are long gone now.

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John Deutzman, a New York native, has been working as a reporter at Fox 5 News since September of 2001. John has won 12 career Emmys and has received 28 Emmy nominations. He's known for his aggressive and at times humorous style when catching bad guys and exposing scams for the Fox 5 Investigative Unit. John's stories have resulted in arrests, businesses being shut down and dozens victims getting their money back from scam artists. Before moving back to New York, John spent 11 years in Miami, first as a sports reporter but when hurricane Andrew struck, John was thrown into news reporting and evenutally made the full time switch to news. John also had stints in Binghamton,New York and Springfield,Massachusetts
. A native of Smithtown,Long Island, John is an 11th-generation Long Islander. He describes himself as a 50/50 mix of his two grandfathers. One grandfather was a journalist who owned the town paper, the "Smithtown Messenger" and the other was one of the first cops in town who had a reputation for being tough and crazy but fair.

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